The Prince and the Whale
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| Author | gloomp |
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| Tags | author:gloomp bela featured playable prince rated tarr whale |
| Created | 2008-08-12 |
| Last Modified | 2008-08-12 |
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4 by 58 people.
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| Description | You are the sun. The sun doesn't move, this is what it does. You are the Earth. The Earth is here for a start, and then the Earth moves around the sun. And now, we'll have an explanation that simple folks like us can also understand, about immortality. All I ask is that you step with me into the boundlessness, where constancy, quietude and peace, infinite emptiness reign. And just imagine, in this infinite sonorous silence, everywhere is an impenetrable darkness. Here, we only experience general motion, and at first, we don't notice the events that we are witnessing. The brilliant light of the sun always sheds its heat and light on that side of the Earth which is just then turned towards it. And we stand here in it's brilliance. This is the moon. The moon revolves around the Earth. What is happening? |
This map was featured on 2008-10-03
Phenomenal? Phenomenal dosen't cover it.
This map is pure simplicity at its greatest. The mine placement is ingenious, as is the gold placement. Not only that, but the combination of the simplistically amazing tileset, the circular mine placement, and the linear gold placement make this a great experience to play.
Basically, this author put together some basic objects and some plain tiles. Then for the final touch, he sprayed some Essence of gloomp on it.
I'd usually put a one word sentence here explaining how great the map is, but words can't describe it.
— Riobe
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Comments
2012-05-18
That being said,
I enjoyed this map heartily and feel that it is a "good" map. 5/5.
2012-05-18
Love how nobody realizes
that maps aren't "featurable", they're "good".
2011-04-30
Now I understand the description
Brilliant opening scene: very atmospheric and intriguing. In many ways the film felt like the antithesis of the traiditional hollywood style of moviemaking, especially the long unbroken takes in every scene, which, though technically very impressive indeed do try your patience on occasion (like when he leaves the house with Gyorgy, and they converse for a minute then walk in silence for like five more without doing anything at all; my mother was beginning to fall asleep).
Overall an interesting film, if challenging to watch for someone more used to conventional films. It did kinda feel like half the film was spent watching Janos walking around with an expression of dread on his face.
If I were more pretentious I might make a comparison between the outbreak of violence in the film and the argumentative comments on this map. But I'm not, so I won't.
Oh yeah, I felt it needed more music. The score was brilliant when it was playing, but to echo a point my dad made the film could have included some Bach given the link between him and the eponymous Werckmeister.
Overall an interesting film, if challenging to watch for someone more used to conventional films. It did kinda feel like half the film was spent watching Janos walking around with an expression of dread on his face.
If I were more pretentious I might make a comparison between the outbreak of violence in the film and the argumentative comments on this map. But I'm not, so I won't.
Oh yeah, I felt it needed more music. The score was brilliant when it was playing, but to echo a point my dad made the film could have included some Bach given the link between him and the eponymous Werckmeister.
2009-11-10
It is a pretty cool term.
All right, I concede. I know I can't change opinion...I dunno...I just kinda wanted to explain my stance. Thanks gloomp. :)
2009-11-10
Actually, one more thing.
I feel that as a mapping community we are entering a self-deprecating postmodernist stage. Everyone knows the rules and has pushed them so far they're pretty much broken, and through the gap comes this pouring of maps that know they are bad, and therefore become good. Or something. I don't know, maybe I just wanted to write "self-deprecating postmodernist stage."
2009-11-10
Okay, more awake now.
But I'm not feeling more compelled to make another tower comment about it. I think where the difference in our opinion lies is that I really don't care. Like I said a couple days ago, my general message is "fuck the numa community I'm not interested." I care about the maps my interfriends (lol in) make and what they think of my weak little attempts at creativity, but beyond that I couldn't care less. Basically the pond analogy again.
2009-11-10
grtetr
bluhhhhhhh maybe i'll read that tomorrow and address it but i'm not staying up another hoour bnow that's for sure
bottom line i don't care enough right noiw
bottom line i don't care enough right noiw
It's the mappers. I feel that nobody views maps in the same way as I do, that is, as an art. When I pulled Radium out, I was not using him as an example of poor mapping (I would've used the newest ATOB or Yahoozy map would there not have been any anti-establishment connotations), but rather as an example of maps that have no emotion. I've played maps that make me smile, maps that make me scream at the computer, and even maps that make my laugh in hysterics. The problem I have is that none of these maps have been released in the past year and a half. I'll be honest: I don't play as many maps as I used to, but I still play quite a few, and all I can get from the vast majority of maps is at best a "...huh". It so happens that as playing experiences, some of my favourite recent maps are rather sub-par but they make me react, and ultimately, isn't that the point of a game? To evoke emotions in the audience?
As mappers we have this incredible arsenal at our hands. We can decide the mood and the theme of a map, and through such simple decisions entirely change the way the player feels. I realise that it is possible that I'm just developing a unusual degree of indifference, but I just want to be able to feel something over a map. It's actually funny that you mention Pavs, because, although I usually omit them from my lists of favourite authors (people don't seem to take me seriously when I include them), he and Guis are two of my favourite mappers of all time. This is primarily because their maps made me feel something. Oh, and yes, I know of incluye’s brother also. LNKNPRK was it? Something like that. His maps were crap, yes, so I don't care enough to check that I got all the letters. Another mapper who's maps I enjoyed was elephant_shit [nmaps.net]. As I'm sure you can tell, the maps themselves are not good. In fact, they are rather rubbish - but they speak to me, and I like that.
Also, thank you for the links. They were rather good maps. area 15 especially was very clever.
As mappers we have this incredible arsenal at our hands. We can decide the mood and the theme of a map, and through such simple decisions entirely change the way the player feels. I realise that it is possible that I'm just developing a unusual degree of indifference, but I just want to be able to feel something over a map. It's actually funny that you mention Pavs, because, although I usually omit them from my lists of favourite authors (people don't seem to take me seriously when I include them), he and Guis are two of my favourite mappers of all time. This is primarily because their maps made me feel something. Oh, and yes, I know of incluye’s brother also. LNKNPRK was it? Something like that. His maps were crap, yes, so I don't care enough to check that I got all the letters. Another mapper who's maps I enjoyed was elephant_shit [nmaps.net]. As I'm sure you can tell, the maps themselves are not good. In fact, they are rather rubbish - but they speak to me, and I like that.
Also, thank you for the links. They were rather good maps. area 15 especially was very clever.
2009-11-09
epilogue
Okay, okay, okay, I guess I care enough about the community to defend it in rambling, stream-of-consciousness rants every now and again. I guess I get a little prickled whey when did it get dark what did I just spend an hour doing. ;______________:
2009-11-09
continued
But wait. Let me back up. Before I went off on my entertainment ramble, I was going to demonstrate the total misguidedness of your belief that all maps being made today are RadiumFalcon-style messes. I'm not going to point to the obvious rebuttals, those being lord_day, Yahoozy, rocket_thumped, et al. Those are all ancient, established mapmakers who've been producing stunning work for years. We all know they're good. They're the best of the best. It would be silly to point to a bunch of pre-'07 authors and say, "Here's your vibrancy!" That would be just silly. No, let me show you a few bold, weird, deeply flawed yet deeply original maps by authors you've never heard of that will blow your mind if you give them half a chance. area 15 [nmaps.net] by el_devo [nmaps.net]. Confusional Mind [nmaps.net] by yokola95 [nmaps.net]. Launch Yourself. [nmaps.net] by The_Snaffer [nmaps.net]. Do you see what I'm getting at here? Basically, I'm diametrically opposed to your gloom-and-doom view of NUMA. Let me spell out what I was trying to say on IRC: NUMA, to me, is an N User Map Archive. It is not a forum, it is not a chat board, it is a place for putting maps. If the number of maps being uploaded to the Archive is increasing, then the Archive is thriving. The actual quality of the maps, or the people submitting maps, does not come into the equation. There will always be good maps that go unnoticed, and bad maps that get fawned with praise. None of it matters. You can still look for maps yourself. If the search features are getting better the site is getting better. Any sniping tsunamis or flaming flame-ups are like ripples in the pond and the pond is maps, good and bad. There will be those, like yourself, squibbles, who swim in the pond and say the water is getting worse. But it's not. There aren't, really, good map molecules and bad map molecules. It's still just O2T with some extra bits. 2 Objects and a Tile, is case you didn't catch on.
2009-11-09
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Um. Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. Yeah. About that. Let's see. Um. Hm. Right, well. I made the oppressor king thing because I was bored and then just wrote a story for it. I wasn't much in the mood to map, but I guess I couldn't think of anything else to do. I guess I see your point about Knifeedge Saloon, but man, I don't really think it's that good. I mean, it's cool, but it lacks all excitement for me. As for this map, well, um. How to put it delicately. I don't like it. I wasn't a big fan when I made it either. The one-ways are stupid, the mine circles trite, the tileset nothing special. If I had to, I'd put this would be pretty far down on my "good gloomp maps to feature" list. I don't get why people like it at all.
But that's not the meat of your comment, now is it? The thing you seem most concerned about is the general decline in map quality. Now I'm sorry, but I find that patently untrue. You point to RadiumFalcon because for good reason, but consider. Michael Bay continues to be a surefire bread winner, and Nickelback are one of the biggest names in music today. We all know how much they suck, so it would be easy to say that the entertainment industry has bankrupt us of anything daring or new. But if you look a little deeper, and get some historical perspective, you'll notice how many extremely successful bands there were who made awful music, throughout the 20th century. You'll also notice you've never heard of, or at least heard, any of them. The point I make with this extended sidetrack is that mediocre artists come and go, but if they are remembered at all, it will only be with derision. That's sort of how I feel about current crop of bad mapmakers. When they leave, NUMA will forget. If they make a comeback map, will it get gobs of attention? Likely not, because no one will care. Pavel made maps, did you know that? Probably not, because they were fucking awful. incluye's brother made maps, did you know that? Probably not, because they were fucking awful. No one will care when he comes back, but when Barabajagal drops a couple new works on us, glitched listing and all, the crown goes wild. Why? Because his maps are goddamn amazing.
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Um. Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. Yeah. About that. Let's see. Um. Hm. Right, well. I made the oppressor king thing because I was bored and then just wrote a story for it. I wasn't much in the mood to map, but I guess I couldn't think of anything else to do. I guess I see your point about Knifeedge Saloon, but man, I don't really think it's that good. I mean, it's cool, but it lacks all excitement for me. As for this map, well, um. How to put it delicately. I don't like it. I wasn't a big fan when I made it either. The one-ways are stupid, the mine circles trite, the tileset nothing special. If I had to, I'd put this would be pretty far down on my "good gloomp maps to feature" list. I don't get why people like it at all.
But that's not the meat of your comment, now is it? The thing you seem most concerned about is the general decline in map quality. Now I'm sorry, but I find that patently untrue. You point to RadiumFalcon because for good reason, but consider. Michael Bay continues to be a surefire bread winner, and Nickelback are one of the biggest names in music today. We all know how much they suck, so it would be easy to say that the entertainment industry has bankrupt us of anything daring or new. But if you look a little deeper, and get some historical perspective, you'll notice how many extremely successful bands there were who made awful music, throughout the 20th century. You'll also notice you've never heard of, or at least heard, any of them. The point I make with this extended sidetrack is that mediocre artists come and go, but if they are remembered at all, it will only be with derision. That's sort of how I feel about current crop of bad mapmakers. When they leave, NUMA will forget. If they make a comeback map, will it get gobs of attention? Likely not, because no one will care. Pavel made maps, did you know that? Probably not, because they were fucking awful. incluye's brother made maps, did you know that? Probably not, because they were fucking awful. No one will care when he comes back, but when Barabajagal drops a couple new works on us, glitched listing and all, the crown goes wild. Why? Because his maps are goddamn amazing.
2009-11-09
This is what I am talking about.
This map has heart. I miss maps like this.
Nowadays every map is this [nmaps.net], every user is this [nmaps.net] and every feature is this [nmaps.net]. I feel that as a community, we have all lost our identities, and become soulless, conforming regularities.
Surely you remember maps like this [nmaps.net] and this [nmaps.net]. These maps had meaning...they had passion. They were our way of standing up against a mundane reality and shouting "LOOK! I CAN CREATE, THEREFORE I AM DIVINE!". Through creation we define ourselves as human, but through emotive creation we become gods. I want the escapism of this community to return; the comment to lose the trite "nice."; and for us to be able stand amongst those who have come before and declare "I am good.". I know you may not agree with me at the moment gloomp, but I am going to try regardless, and until I have convinced you that this place can mean something, and be a home to true beauty, I will not stop.
Nowadays every map is this [nmaps.net], every user is this [nmaps.net] and every feature is this [nmaps.net]. I feel that as a community, we have all lost our identities, and become soulless, conforming regularities.
Surely you remember maps like this [nmaps.net] and this [nmaps.net]. These maps had meaning...they had passion. They were our way of standing up against a mundane reality and shouting "LOOK! I CAN CREATE, THEREFORE I AM DIVINE!". Through creation we define ourselves as human, but through emotive creation we become gods. I want the escapism of this community to return; the comment to lose the trite "nice."; and for us to be able stand amongst those who have come before and declare "I am good.". I know you may not agree with me at the moment gloomp, but I am going to try regardless, and until I have convinced you that this place can mean something, and be a home to true beauty, I will not stop.
2009-10-23
slow second time agd
OH MY YES
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2009-08-21
All gold demo.
Frankly, a pretty nice map because it's aesthetically nice and you've used the circled mines very nicely to improve the gameplay. 4/5
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2009-08-21
Easy to
speedrun... about AGD..... a little tougher ;)
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2009-08-21
Easy to
speedrun... about AGD..... a little tougher ;)
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2009-01-02
I still love this.
:)
2008-10-05
Off the Feature page
with 99 comments. Goddamn. Imma ask on IRC for a comment.
2008-10-04
BUPO SUCKS
PALEMOON IS RIGHT
somebody mention bupo or "feature-worthy"
2008-10-04
Naw, that'd be cheap.
2008-10-04
I will, if you want to get
9 (8 while you're reading this) comments from me..
2008-10-04
palemoon's comment
is worth a feature ;P
2008-10-04
GOOD MAP
the map is well layed out yet it is tad easy
2008-10-04
THIS IS AN OPINION
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HIS MAP TRULY SAEVD MY DOG FROM MYRIAD GARGANTUAN SPEEDING AUTOMOBILES THAT HAD INVADED MY HOME. THANK YOU GLOMP FOR SIRING SUCH A SUPER STYLISH CARTOGRPAH PURELY FOR MY PLAYING PLEASURE.
HIS MAP TRULY SAEVD MY DOG FROM MYRIAD GARGANTUAN SPEEDING AUTOMOBILES THAT HAD INVADED MY HOME. THANK YOU GLOMP FOR SIRING SUCH A SUPER STYLISH CARTOGRPAH PURELY FOR MY PLAYING PLEASURE.
Sunset
Goddamn double post.