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The Pig and tHe pIg and thE piG

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Author sidke
Tags author:sidke playable rated
Created 2009-07-17
Last Modified 2009-07-17
Rating
4
by 11 people.
Map Data

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Oh yeah, btw.
Last map on NUMA, later.

Other maps by this author

Thumbnail of the map 'Primetime Sukiyaki' Thumbnail of the map 'Pretentious Map No.827' Thumbnail of the map '9th map' Thumbnail of the map 'SPVBC' Thumbnail of the map 'Espada' Thumbnail of the map 'Toehold'
Primetime Sukiyaki Pretentious Map No.827 9th map SPVBC Espada Toehold

Comments

Speed

boom sub-400
Demo Data

This is crazy.

Bye, sidke!

I love you

Moony <3
sory 4 spam

OH NO

Demo Data

lol

have a demo this map is kind of bitchy but i still luv it
this is a big deal i mean rly and you guys are just like fiting aboujt some pig maps at leats in RL u would jus duel with pistols and shit like aaron burr (he dropped hamilton right)

i dun no who would win but i hope if sidke gets shot by sexy atob (look at his avatar) u would at least survive with a useless arm or sumthing but at any rate if you shot the guy adn he lives then u just shake his hand and the disput is over and if your nice u might even ppay some hospital bills bcuz those r a bitch 2 pay off IRL

ehh.

i'm done debating let's just all love each other.

:D

You guys just

need to chill out and let it go.

Damn.

Radium

I've stated, very clearly, very concisely, twice on this map that I do not consider myself above you or anyone and that my opinion is just that. Do you people really have such a problem with reading comprehension, or are you just so desperate to spin this to make yourselves appear justified?

My opinion is that this map is trash.
My opinion is that sidke is a bad map maker in general.

These things do not equal truths. And the ONLY reason I brought them up is because sidke made a public assumption that I was rating his maps out of spite and that my rating values were whimsical and shallow.

It was a thinly veiled stab, he lashed out because he felt hurt that his map was rated badly. That's apparently cool behaviour with you guys and doesn't deserve to be corrected?

My responses were actually playful to begin with, tone is lost online so I guess I can't blame you, but I was completely justified calling sidkes assumptions and ideas of me silly and I'm fully entitled to call him awful within the confines of NED.

I'm sorry to repeat myself, but you're making it very difficult by not actually reading what I write and plowing on with your silly little crusade.

And sidke, you put your map here, you started this little debate, so you've no right to call it off. It'll die when it does, the less you respond the more chance it'll have.

I'm not demanding the last word, though, feel free to say what you need to. :)

That... that was directed towards atob. >____>

Man, you kill me. We're both guilty of being complete dicks. We are also both guilty of hypocrisy. There is no better man in this, but you are not above me. At all. Period.

For further dramashit to specific people who are not me, take it to PMs or something. You don't need to keep using my map as a stage for all of this.

Thanks.

oh my.

i'm talking about your personality in general. i've seen this self-righteous behavior from you time after time. i don't mean to insult you, but i think you need a little self-evaluation.

and i DID read every single comment before mine. so my opinion is idiotic because it contradicts you? typical. i do not wish to quarrel, i'm just tired of your big ego stomping down other's opinions.

you act as if you are the the undeniable logic, that is always correct. the thing is, sometimes you /are/ wrong, atob. like today, when you called sidke's map a pile of trash. very poorly worded; inflammatory and insulting.

~RF

sidke

you can quit attempting to act the better man. Our interaction ended a while ago when I suggested we all move along.

Thing is, Radium offered a frsh insulting and somewhat ignorant response, and I felt the need to respond. Just because it's on your map doesn't mean you need to get involved any more.

Stop being such a hypocrite and prolonging this silly discussion if you honestly think it should die.

Radium, dear,

pay attention to the thread before you reply, please? It'll save you looking like such an idiot.

The guy made a bunch of assumptions question my character and intentions, so I responded to clarify. And here's how it went:

sidke

And so you must 0 it.
Very mature, atob.


I didn't 0 it.

sidke

No matter, as you have now proven to me /exactly/ how you judge a map. You did not play it; you don't care. I dunno what it is, but it's somehow related to your little burst of admin justice on the others.


I played it, I didn't like it, I gave my opinion. He accused me of retaliating out of spite. I couldn't possibly be that I actually thought the map was awful...

See how that works now?

So, radium, before you come with your holy words of wisdom. look at where the thread began. I'm not allowed to call a map pretentious without having my character called to question? And when I defend myself with my OPINION I'm the who's made out to be the aggressor?

Oh, and by the way, there were no deleted comments, only spelling errors edited.

The only white knights here are those of you ganging up on me with some misplaced sense of indignation. I have a strong opinion, but not once have I suggested that it's gospel nor that I'm better than any of you.

Check your own motivations, you'll likely find they're not as clear as you've convinced yourself they are.

... or delete your comment. Again.

... atob. Seriously. This is /sooo/ two hours ago. Let it go.

can't wait for your next map

wow atob

looking at your comments (not including the deleted ones, which i'm sure were awful),

you really need a reality check. you act as if you are the white knight of NUMA. your comments, although insightful, often come across as abrasive.

so, as maxson924 said, get the fuck of your high horse.

I'd also hope

you don't listen to the yea sayers, too. They can be just as dangerous to actual progression, sometimes more so.

do it

is all i can say, and don't let the naysayers have their way.

Yes, I am leaving for other reasons. But saying, "I am leaving because of atob," makes me seem more shallow and childish than saying, "Yeah, I have school and life to attend to. NUMA/Metanet takes up a good portion of my time because I honestly want to be here more than do the boring monotonous crap that is life. If I don't forcefully remove myself from them both for a bit I will most likely fail this semester and not get a job which is what I should be doing. Did I mention I am also most likely moving?"

So that's the reason. I prefer the atob version, though. I'll probably be back when I'm some rich cat with a house and car.

oh

cross out my part about him leaving, the rest I stand by.

you say

he's a shitty map-maker. I think you're wrong. You can think what you want, but I wish you wouldn't be so dismissive and insulting to one of my favorite mappers as to get him to leave. Of course, you're a much more experienced and basically better mapper than I am, so maybe you actually do believe that your opinion holds more weight (being an admin and all), and I can understand that, but those comments are absolutely brutal, and while I can think of plenty of maps that warrant such frankness, this map certainly does not (IMO of course). I've always respected you for how much you benefit the community, just try not to step on so many toes while you're at it.
He's been talking about it for weeks :/
and see where that takes the community as a whole.

I love how

you guys ignore all the assumptions and petty bleating this guy made below, and focus on my opinion like it's the end of the world.

If you're going to profess to know how I think and why I do things, prepare to be corrected if you're off the mark. And if you do so with a shitty attitude, be warned mine might be just as playful in return.

There's no need to leave sidke, you're well like around here and your maps are appreciated by people.

Let's all try to grow up and get on with it, hm?

hm

those angles are lovely. and i try to imitate your tiles with every map i make. i would ask you to ignore the people who believe so righteously in the power of their own opinions, but its probably more healthy to quit N. Loved the switches on the wall btw, nice touch, im always yelling at people to stay off the walls but i can't quite pull off preventing them like you do.
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Example:

of how to mess a thread up entirely. Still jealous, sidke?

Ha.

My last one slips between maxon's two. I broke the quote tags :s

/inept

o_O

atob, i was responding to your now-deleted comment

Maxon

you know how to follow a thread? it's simple, here, I'll teach you:

sidke
No matter, as you have now proven to me /exactly/ how you judge a map. You did not play it; you don't care.


Now see how my response fits? The guy was making silly assumptions that needed addressing. He claimed to *know* why and how I rate maps, all I did was clarify for him and respond to his shitty attitude with a little of my own.

Eye for an eye around here, kid, learn to deal with that if you're going to throw your attitude around.

ah

well i didn't know that that's what you were responding to. sorry for that then, though it's been years since i was called a kid :P
"your ineptness at mapping, this resulting pile of trash in the guise of something attempting innovation"

the least you could do is word that differently in such a way as to not be so insulting.

as several people have said across several maps, get the fuck off your high horse.

Few things:

Maxon, if you really are insecure enough for me to need to right IMO after every one of my OPINIONS, then you should deal with that. I know what I like, that's all, obviously these things are entirely subjective.

And sidke, how am I being self-rightous here? I played your map, I thought your map as awful, I rated it as such and told you so. IF you can't deal with that without whining on about it then, once more, I think you need to take a look closer to home.

Also, I edited a simple spelling error, both times, that you're clinign to that in the hope of elevating yourself somehow show just how silly you can be. :)
I actually disagree with him about sidke's mapping, because I for one enjoy his maps a load. They're simple, but the subvert the generic enough to make them seem like a fresh style. At least some of his stuff anyways.
and i'm kinda tired of seeing him state his opinions like they're facts :/